In this episode, Evan sits down with Joseph Cabrera, Head of Brand at American Operator, a company focused on transitioning small businesses from retiring owners to a new generation of local operators. He explains how their model challenges traditional private equity by prioritizing long-term ownership, community impact, and giving operators the chance to earn equity over time. They dive into the “soul” of small businesses—why they matter beyond profit and how losing them to corporate rollups strips communities of their identity. Joseph also shares how his experience at West Point Military Academy and service in Afghanistan shaped his leadership style, along with his belief that real teams are built through shared hardship, not comfort. The conversation highlights the challenges of business succession and why a growing number of young Americans are turning toward hands-on, meaningful work over traditional corporate paths.